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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #263
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-
- Info-Hams Digest Tue, 8 Mar 94 Volume 94 : Issue 263
-
- Today's Topics:
- ARRL server (2 msgs)
- Day.Hamfest remote control for contesting meeting?
- Digest of Articles - QST Feb 1993 (Long - 40k)
- help identifying a tube
- Need ITU Call Sign Prefix List
- No more FCC Daily Digest postings
- PY0FM (2 msgs)
- QSL Address for V7A
- Standard C5718 New User
- Ten-Tec question (2 msgs)
- Testing Procedures (was: Re: Keyboards at testing sessions)
- This week on Spectrum 12/03/94
- Why no 10 meter activity?
-
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-
- Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available
- (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams".
-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Mar 94 16:07:07 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!msuinfo!netnews.upenn.edu!netnews.noc.drexel.edu!yose@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ARRL server
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Does anyone know what happened to the ARRL server? I have been trying to
- get files, but haven't gotten anything.
-
- Does anyone have the general exam questions (and higher?)
-
- Please email: j.wetstein@ieee.org
-
- Joe
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Mar 94 11:50:02
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!msuinfo!netnews.upenn.edu!mipg.upenn.edu!yee@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ARRL server
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >Does anyone know what happened to the ARRL server? I have been trying to
- >get files, but haven't gotten anything.
-
- I believe that the files at the ARRL server are also available at
- ftp.std.com
-
-
- --
- Medical Image Processing Group | Conway Yee, N2JWQ
- 411 Blockley Hall | EMAIL : yee@mipg.upenn.edu
- 418 Service Drive | VOICE : 1 (215) 662-6780
- Philadelphia, PA 19104-6021 (USA) | FAX : 1 (215) 898-9145
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 06:41:28 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!news.ysu.edu!news.cps.udayton.edu!dmapub!apontej@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Day.Hamfest remote control for contesting meeting?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- anyone interested in discussing remote control for contesting
- as an unschedule informal meeting during the dayton hamfest please
- contact me (jose aponte - kp4uy). I will be working in the speaker &
- forum desk, if not there please leave contact information & interest.
- as a reference there was an article on cq july 93 page 68
- that talks about the servant station. internet can be a land line
- that would carry digitized morse code to be received by master. there has
- been efforts by at&t to carry live packatized voice... anyone care to comment
- on this? a way of doing it with existing tcp/ip? there are other issues on
- how a station on the us can compete with the big guns in remote locations?
- at present cq ssb wpx contest states that the xmiter needs to be connected
- physically to the antenna, at least that was last years rule. so it is
- posible to those rules to operate remotely, right? anyone care to comment?
- on rules, interest, ways of doing it?of course you can't move the station
- around from location to location depending on conditions... but what are the
- rules for someone operating out an airplane, ship? no flames please because
- they will not be read or replied to... only constructive comments.. gracias
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Mar 94 20:04:18 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!insosf1.infonet.net!usenet.ee.pdx.edu!fastrac.llnl.gov!cronkite.nersc.gov!
- Subject: Digest of Articles - QST Feb 1993 (Long - 40k)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- The digest is too large for my mailer to digest. Can someone put this
- on an FTP or Gopher somewhere?
-
- Tks
- Greg WA9EYY
-
-
- -----------------
- Greg Chartrand _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/
- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
- _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/
- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
- _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Mar 94 23:15:23 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!nigel.msen.com!ilium!rcsuna.gmr.com!rcsuna.gmr.com!vbreault@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: help identifying a tube
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I just got a high power tube and am wondering what it's characteristics
- might be. It's an Eimac 3CW20 000A7. If it's worth something to someone
- I may consider selling it, but it will make a great conversation piece in
- the event no one does.
-
- For what it's worth: I also have the filament transformer (6V 100A),
- blower and socket. It is mounted in it's socket.
-
- --
- Val Breault - N8OEF - vbreault@gmr.com \ /|
- Instrumentation dept GM NAO R&D Center \ / |
- My opinions are not necessarily those of \ /__|
- GMR nor of the General Motors Corporation \/ |___
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:30:53 GMT
- From: news.crd.ge.com!islandgirl!gaus@cs.rochester.edu
- Subject: Need ITU Call Sign Prefix List
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hello all,
-
- Does anyone have an up-to-date list of ITU call sign prefixes?
- If so, could you please send it to me by email.
-
- Thanks,
-
-
-
- Rick Gaus
- WA3INC
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Mar 94 07:03:11 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!wetware!spunky.RedBrick.COM!psinntp!psinntp!pixar!bruce@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: No more FCC Daily Digest postings
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens) writes:
- > Since the FCC Daily Digests are now available via anonymous FTP to
- > FCC.GOV, I won't be posting any more of them to this newsgroup.
-
- landisj@drager.com (Joe Landis - System & Network Mgr) replies:
- > Myself, and many others I'm sure, do not have FTP available, and would
- > like to see your posts of the digests continue.
-
- The system manager at FCC.GOV said he'd eventually set up a mailing
- list for people who don't have FTP and want the digest. Until then,
- I'm not getting in the way if someone else wants to FTP the digest
- and post it or e-mail it to those who don't have FTP. I've achieved my
- goal of getting you to understand the importance of following the FCC's
- daily business.
-
- Once the FCC.GOV FTP archive went on line, I took the time I was using
- for the digest postings and started the ARRL-policy mailing list.
- That's worked out very well so far - many ARRL volunteer staff and paid
- employees are on the list so we're arriving at some real understanding
- instead of the bluster that goes on in rec.radio.amateur.policy .
-
- I'm also running the mailing lists for the Debian distribution of Linux,
- and I'm building a 9600-baud bit-regenerating packet repeater for the
- San Francisco Bay area, and I'm being a Newlywed, and I have a job at
- Pixar. Did you see the restored version of "Snow White", or the lack
- of seams in the cones of "The Coneheads"? I wrote some of that software.
- So someone else please distribute the Digests to the people who don't
- have FTP!
-
- Thanks
-
- Bruce Perens
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 9 Mar 94 04:00:23 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: PY0FM
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Scott Rosenfeld writes:
- >Worked PY0FM ....
- ....
- >1)PY0FM - which island group and how to get a card?
- Scott
- PY0F is Fernando de Noronha island valid as DXCC land. PY0FM is certainly a
- guest on the island. The only local station is PY0FF (Andre) that has
- guested many station during contests. See Call Book.
- 73 de Rogerio, PT2TD
- University of Brasilia
- Brasilia, Brazil
-
-
- F. ROGERIO F. ARAGAO
- Departamento de Fisica - UnB
- E-MAIL R_ARAGAO@BRUNB.BITNET
- Acknowledge-To: <R_ARAGAO@BRUNB>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Mar 94 20:36:58 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!astro.as.utexas.edu!oo7@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: PY0FM
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- eckman@eos1.larc.nasa.gov (Richard Eckman) asks:
-
- >>Yes, I heard him on 10 meters this weekend and he said "via PY5CC".
- >>Then again, I tried this route over a year ago and never received a
- >>response (for a direct QSL request). Has anyone ever had any luck
- >>with this route?
-
- Yes, I got a card with no problem for last year's ARRL-ssb contest,
- with the same call and QSL route. It's advisable to send $2 for
- PY, their mailing costs are pretty high.
-
-
- Derek Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX)
- Department of Astronomy, University of Texas,
- Austin TX 78712. (512-471-1392)
- oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Mar 94 19:42:23 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!csn!server!stortek.com!patrick_tatro@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: QSL Address for V7A
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Can anybody provide me with a QSL address for V7A. I logged him on 28.414Mhz
- on 3/5/94 at 2050 UCT but didn't get a QSL address.
-
- Thanks for your help
-
- 73's
- Pat N0WCG
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Mar 94 05:49:00 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!concert!news.duke.edu!duke!wolves!psybbs!fredmail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Standard C5718 New User
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hello ALL,
-
- I have just purchased and received the new Standard C5718 Dual Bander
- Mobile Radio and was wondering if there are any others out there with
- one?
-
- I would like to correspond with you and compare notes on any problems
- and/or fixes you may have encountered.
-
- I have found one so far....The Cross-Band Repeat feature only seems to
- work if I do not set a plus or minus offset for cross-banding into
- another repeater. I called Standard and they said that they have a
- upgrade chip that they will install at no charge.
-
- Has anyone else had similar or any other type of problems?
-
- Thanks,
- Bill, KD4LLQ
- Raleigh, NC
- ___
- X OLX 2.1 TD X Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
- X OLX 2.1 TD X All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Mar 1994 15:37:03 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cville-srv.wam.umd.edu!ham@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Ten-Tec question
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <199403081458.GAA03204@ucsd.edu>,
- Ron D. Rossi <rrossi@vnet.IBM.COM> wrote:
- >I recently purchased a TEN-TEC Omni-D and the thing works great. I'm
- >having a good deal of fun making contacts temporarily using my ~80 foot
- >dog run as a wire antenna (usually low power and definitely with no
- >dog attached). The rig came with all the filters, but no noise blanker.
- >I am new to this game and wondered what the noise blanker would buy me.
- >The filters really let me single out the CW ops in a crowd (but they need
- >to be relatively strong). I am guessing the noise blanker would be of
- >better use with SSB. By virtue of its name I would say the blanker
- >reduces the background static. Am I far wrong and is this a useful
- >feature on this rig?
- >
- My experience with noise blankers has been that they have virtually no
- effect on background nois. After all, this IS random noise. What it
- does work on in PERIODIC noise, such as a car's ignition system, or the
- static coming from a blender plugged into the socket in the next room,
- or various kinds of periodic pulse noise.
-
- Scott NF3I
-
- It can be useful, but using in plain, old 80 meter noise can actually
- distort your desired signal.
-
- --
- 73, _________ _________ The
- \ / Long Original
- Scott Rosenfeld Amateur Radio NF3I Burtonsville, MD | Live $5.00
- WAC-CW/SSB WAS DXCC - 125 QSLed on dipoles __________| Dipoles! Antenna!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Mar 94 17:17:57 GMT
- From: netcomsv!netcomsv!bongo!julian@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: Ten-Tec question
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <199403081458.GAA03204@ucsd.edu> rrossi@vnet.IBM.COM (Ron D. Rossi) writes:
- >I recently purchased a TEN-TEC Omni-D and the thing works great.
-
- >The rig came with all the filters, but no noise blanker.
- >I am new to this game and wondered what the noise blanker would buy me.
- >The filters really let me single out the CW ops in a crowd (but they need
- >to be relatively strong). I am guessing the noise blanker would be of
- >better use with SSB. By virtue of its name I would say the blanker
- >reduces the background static. Am I far wrong and is this a useful
- >feature on this rig?
-
- The noise blanker reduces impulse noise. The sort of noise
- generated by mopeds, lawn mowers, electric fences etc. This is a nice
- feature on a mobile rig. If you live in an RF quiet neighbourhood, you
- don't need it.
-
- I have an Omni D with the noise blanker. I use it in rural
- Wisconsin. I have played with the noise blanker, but have never needed
- it.
-
-
- --
- Julian Macassey, N6ARE julian@bongo.tele.com Voice: (310) 659-3366
- Paper Mail: Apt 225, 975 Hancock Ave, West Hollywood, California 90069-4074
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Mar 1994 13:52:34 GMT
- From: slinky.cs.nyu.edu!longlast.cs.nyu.edu!jackson@nyu.arpa
- Subject: Testing Procedures (was: Re: Keyboards at testing sessions)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- |> Once he gets the multiple choice test sheet, I feel that the
- |> candidate should not be allowed to submit his sheet for 1
- |> minute copy.
-
- Now, I'm just studying at this point, but I thought the standard testing
- procedures, if there are any, shows that an applicant attempts to answer
- 10 questions. If they get less than 7 correct, then the tester looks at
- the copy sheet to look for solid copy. Maybe we are in the same boat with
- my guess that back-filling should go on before the test sheet is given.
-
- --
- Steven Jackson New York University
- Assistant to the Chair of Comp Sci Courant Inst. of Mathematical Sciences
- jackson@cs.nyu.edu, jcksnste@acfcluster 251 Mercer St, Room 411,NY 10012
- "Not in my head.. so I don't have to think.." -- Nik Fiend
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Mar 1994 23:03:52 +0800
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.oz.au!news.uwa.edu.au!uniwa!garion.it.com.au!garion.it.com.au!postmaster@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: This week on Spectrum 12/03/94
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- [The original had the date back to front]
-
- This week Spectrum takes to the road. We will be broadcasting live from
- the Winter Swl Fest in Kulpsville Pennsylvania. Everyone who is anyone
- in the communications hobbyist community will be on hand. If you can
- make it we would love to shake your hand. If you can't join in on the
- fun in person, you can listen to our live broadcast at the usual times
- and frequencies. See you at the Winter Swl Fest '94.
- --
- Spectrum airs live Sunday at 0300 UTC (2200 EST Saturday) on:
-
- WWCR, 5810 KHz, Nashville, TN (World Wide)
- WIFI, 1460 AM, Philadelphia, PA (Philadelphia Area)
- KHNC, 1360 AM, Denver, CO (Denver Area)
- Omega Radio Network, Galaxy III, X17, 5.8 MHz WIDE audio. (Satellite)
-
- Spectrum is rebroadcast:
-
- Sunday at 1500 EST, on WIFI, 1460 AM, Philadelphia, PA (Philadelphia Area)
- Monday at 0400 UTC (2300 EST Sunday),
- on WWCR, 7435 KHz, Nashville, TN (World Wide)
-
- --
- Spectrum, "The Communications Magazine You Read With Your Ears."
- Box 722, Holmdel, NJ, 07733-0722, USA
- spectrum@overleaf.com, askspectrum@attmail.com, spectrumshow@genie.geis.com
- +1 800-787-SPECTRUM, +1 908-671-4209
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Mar 94 19:05:53 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!newshub.nosc.mil!news!Roger.Keating@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Why no 10 meter activity?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Sunday, here in San Diego, W6RDF was QSOing with Pitcairn Island.
-
- 10m is open more than I would expect.
-
- Roger Keating - KD6EFQ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 14:31:41 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <rohvm1.mah48d-280294100619@136.141.220.39>, <2MAR199408091550@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov>, <2lg5vo$err@news.delphi.com>
- Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
- Subject : Re: Keyboards at testing sessions
-
- In article <2lg5vo$err@news.delphi.com> mahjmac@news.delphi.com (MAHJMAC@DELPHI.COM) writes:
- >>Just couldn't resist adding to his thread. Copying by typewriter has been
- >>around for as long as their have been typewriters. Even the FCC when it
- >>gave the test would let you bring a typewriter. The computer is just the
- >>late 20th century typewriter. The object really is to demonstrate the
- >>ability to receive code at the required level. The mechanism by which you
- >>(as distinct from some computer program) write down the code is immaterial
- >>and not germane to the testing of code proficiency. Not even the FCC is
- >>requiring a handwriting proficiency test at a particular speed.
- >
- >>Erich
- >>N3OXM
- >
- >As I was learning the code, I developed an application that would sound random
- >letters, numbers, or pro-signs, and I would then press the proper key on the
- >keyboard. As a high speed touch typist (> 120 wpm) I found that after a
- >while, my fingers were conditioned to pressing a certain key in response to
- >a certain audible pattern. When I then began attempting to write down
- >what I heard, instead of hitting a key, I discovered that I was not nearly
- >as proficient as I was on the keyboard.
-
- That's what the military and commercial operators discovered too. Copying
- with a typewriter is much faster than copying by hand. That's why they
- *teach* the Code that way, and why intercept operators always copy with
- a keyboard. Note that what they want is an accurate and legible copy of
- what was sent. Since most intercepted traffic is encoded, and most commercial
- traffic heavily abbreviated and filled with "commercial codes", flawless
- copy is mandatory or all meaning could be lost. That's what the FCC wants
- on the test too, though the current amateur test doesn't require zero errors,
- just one minute out of five perfect copy, or the answers to the multiple choice
- questions as the case may be. That level of performance would wash you out at
- military or commercial levels of required accuracy.
-
- Copying in the head isn't real copy, but it's what some hams do on the
- air. That's because their communications content isn't important enough
- to require perfect or permanent copy, and because they can "fill in the
- blanks" from plain English context and from the standard amateur QSO format.
- That wouldn't do if artillery coordinates were being sent.
-
- >But, you bring up an even different point. If the only goal is to make
- >certain people are proficient in code, no matter what the means, then why
- >couldn't a decoding device that takes audible morse and converts it into
- >text be allowed. In under a week I could develop a program for the Sound
- >Blaster or other audio cards that could do exactly that.
- >
- >It would be no different than a person who can only decode morse if they have
- >a typewriter or other keyboard device available. It seems to me that in this
- >day and age, it is so easy to develop inexpensive devices that could decode
- >morse, that the only reason to keep the test is to be certain people are
- >proficient in reading and writing without devices to assist them.
-
- Actually, I think you'll find that your Sound Blaster code wouldn't
- do a very good copying job on normal, noisy, interference filled, HF
- channels. It's possible to exceed human Morse copying ability with DSP
- and/or massive processing, but it's neither simple nor cheap to do it
- in real time now. That's because Morse is an irregular code with
- non-uniform element lengths, spacings, and character lengths. It's
- also normally sent by incoherent on/off keying. Machines can easily
- exceed trained humans in flawlessly copying signals buried in noise
- and interference when the encoding is uniform and coherent, but Morse
- is not a good code in those respects. It was designed, rather haphazardly,
- in an era before a good understanding of information theory existed.
- And it was designed for use on essentially noiseless and interference
- free wire lines. It's use over radio is more of a historical accident
- than an intelligent choice.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 22:02:22 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!paris.ics.uci.edu!news.claremont.edu!kaiwan.com!wetware!spunky.RedBrick.COM!psinntp!psinntp!relay1!rsvl_ns!ernie!rsvl.unisys.com!wilpwr@network.UCSD
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2MAR199408091550@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov>, <2lg5vo$err@news.delphi.com>, <1994Mar8.143141.29301@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>
- Subject : Re: Keyboards at testing sessions
-
- In article <1994Mar8.143141.29301@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes:
- >From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
- >Subject: Re: Keyboards at testing sessions
- >Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 14:31:41 GMT
-
- > Since most intercepted traffic is encoded, and most commercial
- >traffic heavily abbreviated and filled with "commercial codes", flawless
- >copy is mandatory or all meaning could be lost. That's what the FCC wants
- >on the test too, though the current amateur test doesn't require zero errors,
- >just one minute out of five perfect copy, or the answers to the multiple choice
- >questions as the case may be. That level of performance would wash you out at
- >military or commercial levels of required accuracy.
-
- I seem to remember that back when I took my 13 wpm code test in the FCC
- offices in NYC, the receiving portion of the test required only one solid
- minute out of five or so. I don't remember whether the text was plain or
- code groups. Of course, there was also a sending test, using a straight key.
-
- It was 1960 or 1961, I was in high school, and intimidated by all the glory
- and grandeur of the Federal Gummint, so my memory may not be very accurate.
- The point is that, at least at that time, the FCC didn't require 100% accuracy
- for the entire test session, just a burst.
-
- 73,
- Bill.
-
-
- Bill Powers WY0Q <wilpwr@rsvl.unisys.com>
- <powe0040@gold.tc.umn.edu>
- UNISYS Corp.
- MS 4033 Phone: [612] 635-5267
- P.O. Box 64942 FAX: [612] 635-7523
- St. Paul, MN 55164-0942
-
- ------------------------------
-
- End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #263
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